using a mp3 player to power a SP

Marmin74 · Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 229

Hi,
I read about using an mp3-player to power a SP, but I'm confused as to setting things up. Technically it is totally different than using a zapper, can this be done, and how? Audio signal is different than a battery-powered zapper (two signals and no - and +) , and how can I prevent short-circuiting or overloading the mp3 player? Thanks.
(edit: a zapper has + and - poles and a headphone output not afaik).

ZEN · Joined: 12 Aug 2009 Posts: 126

Batteries and stabilized power supplies produce dc voltage and current , so + and - .

The other kind of voltage is the AC voltage that has no + and - as a battery or a stabilized power supply. AC- Alternative voltage - Current has a sine wave waveform. Sine wave has a positive and negative polarity at its sine waveform.

We can convert the AC to DC ,with an electronic circuit that has diodes -rectifiers , capacitors and filters. That is a simple not stabilized DC power supply.Some times there is a ripple waveform ,because there is a very small ac frequency in the DC . They are some AC harmonics- a small background noise.
A better version is the stabilized power supply that has extra circuits which stabilize the voltage so to be always the same. That is a more expensive to make power supply , it is like a battery in regard of voltage quality and is better to the non stabilized.That power supply is used to many applications and into good quality electronic equipment.

The audio signal from a cd, mp3 ,etc is an AC waveform only.It has nothing to do with power supply or battery. A battery or a power supply are used in these audio equipment only to make them work and do what they do. The audio output and signal is a complex AC waveform of music only signal. The same way a computer audio out put works from the headphone output jack.

That output can be connected to a P.W. The problem is that the resistance of a mobius coil is too low. It is possible the output of a computer and MP3 player to be shortcircuited....when connected to a load of 0,3 to 3 ohms only.

Most headphones have a very high resistance.

I am not sure if the audio circuit of a p.c or mp3 can be connected to a very small load as that of a mobius coil.

The mobius coils I did using 24-26 feet of thin multistrand wire measure 0,8 to 1,1 ohms only to a digital good quality multimeter. I believe that most of us can measure their m.c resistance and see the indication of the ohms scale of a digital multimeter. As we know thanks to Sensei , his generator can be connected directly to a mobius coil-power wand without short . But I dont know what will be happened when an audio signal from MP3 is connected.

Any scientific advice from anybody else here in WM to that specific use will be very useful.

We all here in WM are trying to improve the effectiveness of the orgonites and other orgone items we do with always positive will , good thoughts and good spirit, and all our love to humans and mother earth.

BE ALL WELL

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clipper · Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:25 pm Post subject:

GREAT explanation there Z ! Cool

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Sunicore · Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Posts: 11 Location: From within...

I hooked up a small sansa mp3 player to a small SP. Seems to work fine.

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Marmin74 · Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 229

Thanks for the reply, i've a question, how did you connect the output?
Just connecting 1 channel to the SP, and the other wire of the SP to the ground?
How did you check it's working? Isn't a small MP3 player current waay to low to power a SP?
Lots of questions, any feedback appr. Confused

Sunicore · Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Posts: 11 Location: From within...

Pick up a stereo jack @ Radio Shack.
I can look up the part# later if you like.

The crystal is pretty small.

I dowsed it before and after hooking it up to the mp3 player.
It even dowses pretty strong passively w/o mp3.

I get a nice strong clockwise spin while playing 528Hz.

Hope this helps. But I am no guru when it comes to electronics.

Marmin74 · Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 229

I still don't get how you connect the wires.. you just connect the ends to the mobius coil? but anyway it's cool that you embedded an mp3 player into the orgonite mixture. Looks like something special.

Sunicore · Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Posts: 11 Location: From within...

Marmin74

Here's a link:

http://www.ryanmcginty.com/orgone/freqgentutorial.htm

There's a diagram of the audio jack. Just do the same for the wires to the mobius coil & connect them to the audio jack

Here's another link for more info:

http://educate-yourself.org/dc/spindex.shtml

The mp3 is just attached to the outside by velcro.
Appreciated your feedback. Thanks.

<anox}ion · Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 810 Location: Grassy Creek NC

Lol, if it were me, I would just snip the earbuds off, melt and strip the plastic about a half inch off the ends and twist the leads together using those cone shaped whatchemaycallem's. Crude, but simple.

Mike

Marmin74 · Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 229

<anox}ion · Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 810 Location: Grassy Creek NC

I think the objective is to get a half square wave pulse going in only one direction. Your mp3 player should do this if you have the right recording. A speaker, playing music will work back and forth. This is the purpose of the two leads. The right recording will cause a pop 15 times a second, and the speaker is only working in one direction. As for the power, more power is not necessarily a good thing, as Sensei Dennis once said "orgone must be coaxed." And Sunicore has already demonstrated there were no problem with shorts. If you leave one end loose, the signal will have nowhere to go.

Mike

<anox}ion · Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 810 Location: Grassy Creek NC

Actually, I am totally wrong about this..

Lol, if it were me, I would just snip the earbuds off, melt and strip the plastic about a half inch off the ends and twist the leads together using those cone shaped whatchemaycallem's. Crude, but simple.

If mp3 headphones are like those old pc headsets, you will have a smaller plastic covered wire wrapped with the ground wire. You must twist both ground wires together and both colored wires together. I don't know why this escaped me for so long, it was like guardian spirits clued me in. My apologies. My bad. If you had never brought this subject up I would have never thought about it. So my thanks as well.

Mike

ZEN · Joined: 12 Aug 2009 Posts: 126

As Marmin 74 and I have mentioned that audio signal is different to the zapper frequency.

Audio signal is sinewave and zapper signal is square wave and pulse.

You can connect the two + (Left and Right) wires of the MP3 together and the two - wires together. After that you can connect them to the two MC wires. But... the resistance of the mobius coil is low. Is my opinion that you have to add a resistor of approximately 8-15 ohms in series to the + and the one wire of the MC ,so to protect the output circuit of the MP3 FROM SHORT.

If you want to use the MP3 for the 15 hz signal I would strongly recommend the excellent generator of Sensei that produces square wave pulse. PWs are very very powerful ....and work to a chaotic state of 4th and 5th dimension, so we have to avoid experiments and connections which we do not know if are correct or not.

I am familiar with orgonites for more than 5 years and recently with PWs. I believe that PWs are far more powerful and I have noticed that even a small mistake can cause big changes of energy and human emotions and moods...

Be well
Zen
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<anox}ion · Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 810 Location: Grassy Creek NC

Zen, it is true that the usual audio signal is a sine wave, unless you make a recording from a square wave frequency generator. At least it should be, you would need to try an oscilloscope to make sure. My former hookup WAS a dead short, ground to positive on both leads. I have been using this for over a year on my pc speakers. The odd thing was, it seemed to generate a more mellow effect. The succor punch no longer has a cool orgone breeze coming from the positive end, and the power wand doesn't seem to negate the 60Hz house current anymore. I have no idea why this should be, I will try both configurations for a while to make certain. There is a lot we don't know about the electromagnetic Heavyside.

And your right, the most reliable signal would be from one of Sensei's frequency generators.

Mike

ZEN · Joined: 12 Aug 2009 Posts: 126

I recommend the Sensei's 15 hz generator which is reliable and the right square wave pulse generator.

It costs 20$ only, so why to spend time and have serious risks by using other kind of signal sources that might cause malfunctions and other ...strange...symptoms using the powerful 4-5th dimensions PW.s.

IMO that PWs are like fire. Fire can be used to cook your food, to warm your house and family and survive, or to put fire in the house and destroy it...if is used without care and not properly. Please think about that and work with them with extra care with no risks using the right generator that costs 20$ only! The price is so very low and it's quality is high.It works fine with S.P &P.Ws with no risks and negative results.

Do not risk your PC, and MP3 . Just connect that generator and have the positive results from a P.W and not other non controlled-unknown signals which can cause negative effects via the powerful P.Ws. As member here in WM , having common interests with you , having common respect and love to orgone energy , being energy sensitive and living with orgone benefits all these years, I wanted to share any experience or knowledge I have with you.

Personally I do not want to experiment without to be sure for the signals ,the mobius coils and the matrix I use to my PWs, because I do not want to risk when I have to do with the unknown 4th and 5th dimensions they work.

With all my respect,

Zen
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