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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:07 pm    Post subject: Quartz Sand Reply with quote

I have a pool and just recently had to change the sand in the filter. The sand that was sold to me through the local pool company I use said it was industrial quartz sand. Would this be good to use in the construction of organite? Would I still need a larger quartz crystal? What if any are the effects of using different metals in the organite? I am familiar with different crystals, but not metals.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Industrial quartz sand" is one of those terms that could mean different things.

If it is this stuff then it will work: http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/lands_minerals/silicasand.html#1

However, it is always good to have a larger piece of quartz in there too to maximize the piezoelectric squeeze effect. The small quartz grains do not receive as much pressure as larger pieces. Lots of makers think that quartz sand sort of softens or frosts the orgone energy.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use some beach sand in all my orgonite, but not as a stand alone. I always use a crystal as well. I haven't ever tried using only sand, but I'm guessing as long as the sand in mostly quartz it would do in a pinch. The sand I use is 99% quartz composition, and looks fantastic under a microscope. I like mixing sand with the finer metals, like key shavings, I feel it helps the orgonite move and transmute more energy.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks!

I just didn't want to waste my time and money if someone else had already done this and it didn't work. The sand is very clean and primarily white in color. It doesn't look like regular sand. On the bag under ingredients, it says silicon dioxide industrial quartz. I also looked it up on the internet. I can get a 50 lb bag for around $10. Sorry I don't remember the brand name, but I did read the bag while I was refilling the filter with it and quartz was the only ingredient listed.

I was planning on using resin, sand, iron oxide powder, and metal shavings and was wanting to know if this would be fine or a bigger piece of quartz would also be needed. I was planning on making a bunch of TBs for my first pour.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jrich4 wrote:
Thanks!

I just didn't want to waste my time and money if someone else had already done this and it didn't work. The sand is very clean and primarily white in color. It doesn't look like regular sand. On the bag under ingredients, it says silicon dioxide industrial quartz. I also looked it up on the internet. I can get a 50 lb bag for around $10. Sorry I don't remember the brand name, but I did read the bag while I was refilling the filter with it and quartz was the only ingredient listed.

I was planning on using resin, sand, iron oxide powder, and metal shavings and was wanting to know if this would be fine or a bigger piece of quartz would also be needed. I was planning on making a bunch of TBs for my first pour.



Were you planning on bionizing it? Leo has done a lot of posting on the process. Wilhelm Reich discovered (or rediscovered) it. Bionizing involves boiling and freezing the material 3 times. Under an electron microscope bions look like little blue sparks. The energy feels cheerful and comforting to me. I use bionized material in pretty much everything I make. I feel it's a nice balance for the metal powders.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another thing on sand I was not keen on was the mechanical stress that it was subjected to.
Most of the quartz sand I have felt doesn't feel very nice. The act of pulverizing quartz looses it's Earth ethric program, this is also what you would want in a piece of orgonite. The molecular crystal structure might be the same as quartz in a smaller size but the it's internal memory has been stripped.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You mean every sand beach is aetherially stripped?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No I mean every man made or induced mechanical pulverization processes will aetherially strip natural energy to an extent.

This same thing happens with water processing. ie dead water

The beach is a complete natural process but the sand that you buy at the pool store is not scooped up sand from the beach. It has gone trough many sifters, separators traveled on conveyors and dumped into hoppers. Majority of the time it's reduced soil or dirt from a construction site that is sold off to concrete manufactures pool supply companies ect. The larger rocks go to other places too.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The get some beach sand scooped up by a child's shovel, and do remember that casting stuff in polyester resin is one hell of a "processing."
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not disagreeing with you.

My observations with small particles wasn't very promising.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:42 am    Post subject: Quartz Sand Reply with quote

I only make my Orgone with natural quartz sand I purchase from Home Depot and black iron oxide. I have had great results and no need to add any additional quartz crystal. I only make Orgone this way now and I am saving alot of money and making much more orgone.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JW,

Do pieces with iron oxide only feel good to you?

The reason I'm asking is cause I have tried it quite a few times and unless there are other metals in there the particles seem to be a bit small to make good pieces without structuring, even more so without a crystal...

I find the energy from pieces made like that to be more than just a little sticky... kinda creepy actually... and I would not use them for gifting, nor keep in my space...

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have two things to say on seperate matters. The first is that iron oxide and resin is the recipe to make an industrial loader, which is used by the microwave industry to clean up microwave radiation spills. Lena hit it on the head by calling it sticky.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The second thing was about the beach sand. I did an image search for "magnified beach sand" to see what exactly we would be using. Here's what it came back with:











So mostly shell fragments and stones.

Skeleton Beach, Nambia - garnets:



[img]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSR7JNSZ5O_6qaOmrcsmE51Ps X2hw78Wrs-6ifL17UShYX7XK7t_Y-NQbAIoA[/img]

Zushi Beach, Japan - sapphire



Minnesota

http://geology.com/articles/sand-grains/glacial-sand.jpg
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