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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you made them with pot... Cause that could make you feel quite ill... and confused... Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lena wrote:
Maybe you made them with pot... Cause that could make you feel quite ill... and confused... Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lena,

I think the educateyourself link was a very important post here; these are thoughts that should seriously be considered. I think most on this forum have learned to be discerning when it comes to these things, but even the wisest among us can still be fooled from time to time. It is important to view everything on your path with both virtue and reason, or as Sensei puts it, a good heart and a sharp sword.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm.. interesting.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All

On Psywarrior I was discussing this with Karen about discernment. More of a Rant on my part about christianity and stuff. I went to the sight myself and glanced at it but kept retreating by closing my browser since I was not drawn to it. So there must of been something that was negative about it. Also on PsyWarrior I said it is open to debate that is we discusses it in a civil manner which is what we are doing here right know.

Please try not to be hard on other people who might have been caught up in this. Have some understanding and compassion since we all make mistakes and we will all continue to make mistakes big or small.

In the comming days you are going to need people who accept you the way your are in spite of your flaws since that is why we are here in this life is to learn something that is more important then what you have or who you are peronality wise.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:55 pm    Post subject: om??? Reply with quote

What? Doesn't "om mani padme hung" mean "the jewel is in the lotus?" Where is lucifer in that?

Can anyone else shed any light on this??
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The actual sound 'om' makes vibrates in a frequency which is, apparently, Luciferic.

Consider dork boy's take:

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Etherically speaking, when uttering A in vowel, the resonance chamber of the sinuses, the pineal gland, the SOUL petals of the heart, plus the love petals, 720 petals of the head center ALL LIGHT UP.

When using the O vowel, the resonance chamber in the sinuses stops functioning, cleaving that process. This, then forces the resonance down into the larnyx, which is linked to the Solar Plexus and Spleen, which of course, is all lower triad arrangements, bypassing the higher triad, the ajna, throat, and head.

The color of the links - the web grid of the etheric body overlaid and interlayed upon the physical body - shifts FROM BLUE TO RED, WHEN USING OM.

That's all the detail i can safely do in a public forum, because some idiot will figure out these inversions and start using them mentally, for DARK PURPOSES.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is so incredible. I am a yoga instructor & I cannot believe what is being said about om.
How about intention my aware gifters?
We all understand that intention is everything when it comes to making orgone & gifting, right?
I meditate & chant OM, & ah ( aaah is the sound of the heart chakra - dont take my word for it, meditate & get a nice long resonant aaaahh from your belly & see where the vibration occurs) & all kinds of other sounds to awaken ALL THE CHAKRAS, to then lift the energy created , up to the crown & beyond, ( as I believe, as others have said, we have many more chakra than seven, & the others are contained in the astral body..),

and ,
I KNOW youre gonna love this,
actually part of my ritual for putting my INTENTION into my orgonite, includes meditating, chanting OM , which for me , helps to awaken my chakras ( orgone is the BEST THOUGH!!! Smile)) & return me to center , & then , through my heart I BOOST MY LITTLE LOVE ROCKS!
I also ring beautiful bells over every piece to let the healing frequency of the sound vibrate the orgone..
Om,
as I have been taught by those who practice it,
is the sound of UNIVERSAL HARMONY & BALANCE BETWEEN ALL LIVING THINGS.
This is what I tell the students I teach every day as we (WITH THIS INTENTION)
chant OM several times until all of our energies connect, and @ the end of our practice we INTENTIONALLY SHARE THE PEACE WE HAVE CREATED/BEEN BLESSED WITH ,
WITH THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE & BEYOND---
( AND ESPECIALLY WITH THOSE WHO DO NOT WISH THE SAME FOR US),
by chanting OM SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI OM
PEACE TO THE INDIVIDUAL & PEACE TO THE ALL
Millions of people have done this for a long time, WITH THIS INTENTION.

I believe one of lucifers' greatest tricks is this kind of confusion & fear , injected right into what is most sacred & IN FACT is the road that leads AWAY from lucifer & ANY ENERGY OTHER THAN PEACE, LOVE & ONENESS.

Maybe this is a distraction from the POSITIVE HEALING POWER OM truely resonates.

Intentention is the creative seed of all we do , & again , you dont have to take my word for this either.
WE KNOW THIS.
PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM HAVE TOLD ME THIS.
As far as I am concerned,
even if this IS true,
we have NUETRALIZED THE DARK ENERGY WITH OUR INTENTION OF UNIVERSAL LOVE & JOY FOR

EVERY LIVING CREATURE<
KNOWN & UNKNOWN, BY THE COUNTLESS TIMES OOOOOOOMMMMMM HAS BEEN CHANTED WITH THIS INTENTION!!!!

Could intention not transform any energy from one side of the coin to the other?

And lastly, I would like to know if any of the people who are claiming this ,
actually practice chanting OM, & if so , WHAT WAS YOUR EXPERIENCE????

I will finish by saying this is my opinion BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE, & I am judging no one.
And,
OM SHANTI!!!

PEACE TO AAAALLL!!!
SmileSmileSmile
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I honestly don't know. Bradley is a little overzealous sometimes -- but then again so am I, lol. When I meditate I usually use the 'Yaeshua' sound.

Perhaps Sensei could weigh in on this.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole sound thing is interesting enough to be explored in its' own thread, but I will share another little movie that might be of interest here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuiQkn_d1Ro

The guy also has a website on http://www.jainmathemagics.com/default.asp but as always, I would recommend practicing your discernment... - lots of interesting info though, not to mention beautiful geometry, since I know lots of people like to incorporate it into their orgonite creations.

Personally I have always been more interested in going "aah" rather than "ooh"... but maybe that's just me... Wink

Enjoy!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few thoughts here. Lucifer, Satan, these are phenomena that we come to know directly, through personal experience. If someone says "don't use OM because it's dark," and we simply appropriate that information, it becomes a belief system. Remember that Reich talked about "the invasion of compulsory sex morality," and he wasn't talking just about sex, but about the dark forces of morality that impede the life force.

When we become rigid in trying to avoid Lucifer, we're falling into Ahriman's (Satan's) trap. By the same token, when we become expansive in trying to avoid the dense materialism of Ahriman, we fall into Lucifer's trap.

The key is to look critically at any belief system that has a hidden morality built into it. Spiritual development is about connecting to our true desire that's a function of the higher self, and there is no judgement there.

Mistakes are never really mistakes, just experience, until the false ego attaches judgement to it. This isn't to say that anything goes, and everything is all relative so everyone's opinion is equal and everything is just hunky dory - that's the politically correct matrix.

It would be easier if we could just follow rules to get to the truth, but it doesn't work that way. The more we get mired in injunctions about right and wrong, the more we're feeding Ahrimanic forces with our own power. Love doesn't have moralistic rules, doesn't need them, because it works through a higher ethical center, and that's what we each have to discover individually, internally.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, thank you Karen for putting everything in place so beautifully the way you always do Very Happy

Came across this other website that really puts things into perspective without mincing words... actually made me howl with laughter since what they write is so true... for me...

http://engtovo.wordpress.com/2007/07/17/fear-mongering-oh-please/

It's an ongoing battle so please never forget that the rules of your game will change as soon as you think you have it all figured out...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Off topic but what does everyone here define Lucifer as? It was a mistake in the Latin Vulgate translation of the bible. Anyhow, I just gifted the hell out of everything on the fire the grid day. Figure, if its bad that will help and if it's good, well gifting will help too.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard that Lucifer was the roman god of light/enlightenment (or something to that nature)...
....but regardless of the original connotations, the xtians turn all entities [other than their own] evil...
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