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Busta
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Please use discernment.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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I've been aware of Fire The Grid for a while...the intentions are pure and we have nothing to loose trying it. A great number of people meditating toward a unique goal of peace ,love and raise of consciousness can't do any harm. The videos on youtube explain the whole concept very well...watch them and decide afterward.
The participation is a personal choice and shouldn't be judged...especially on this forum.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:16 am Post subject: |
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David,
Thanks for letting us know that you think that "the intentions are pure"... and that "we" should all be doing this...
Being a curious person I would love to know how you are so certain...
Done much gifting lately? Ever?
Lena
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Ethereal
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Hi Lena,
I started gifting a few weeks ago and waiting for my crystals shipment to make some orgonite. I didn't mean that those who decide not to take part at the event are wrong...I'm sorry if you misunderstood me.
You are right, there is no certainty... I should have mentioned that it sure does "look" pure. I was myself hesitant about it.
Thats why I mentioned that one should watch the videos and take a look at the website first and judge it afterward.
I fail to see how taking part to an event like this with good intentions can lead to negative consequences....
However, I am no expert and I might be wrong. I would like to hear peoples thoughts on that subject...it was pretty much ignored until now.
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I don't see what the problem here is? lol people on this board are so emotional.
Fire the Grid is a harmless event which has actually grown to such a size (I've been aware of it for a while now) that it may affect a decent amount of change at certain levels. All you have to do is think positive, essentially.
Here is something I wrote on it for another group of people somewhat less in the know.
| Quote: | For those of you who haven't heard of "The Secret" it is a video/book/concept which essentially plays on quantum trends like entanglement. The EPR, or Einstein Podolsky Rosen paradox assumes local realism, something which Irish physicist John Bell found to be a problem.
So what is the Secret?
Consider: One time a monk asked a younger initiate to take a walk with him. The initiate was excited, because whenever the older masters want to take a walk with you, they usually divulge some sort of pertinent wisdom. The two monks reached a bridge built over a small river and the master stopped, in thought.
"My son" he said, "What would you say if I told you that every single thought you have manifests in reality somehow, tied to yours"
"Master, I would say I would change my thinking!"
"Good" The master replied "Because that is the secret"
My point here is that there is science behind this, and it runs deeper than even I initially thought.
(From Wiki:
This theorem has even been called "the most profound in science".[1] Bell's seminal 1964 paper was entitled "On the Einstein Podolsky Rosen paradox".[2] The Einstein Podolsky Rosen paradox (EPR paradox) assumes local realism, the intuitive notion that particle attributes have definite values independent of the act of observation and that physical effects have a finite propagation speed. Bell showed that local realism leads to a requirement for certain types of phenomena that are not present in quantum mechanics. This requirement is called Bell's inequality.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell's_theorem)
In other words reality as we know it is non-local. So, essentially "The Secret" is a concept which espouses these mathematical principals and offers it in the form of a guide for acquiring material abundance. That is, if you are a material person.
Intuitively, though, we can say that this is not actually tied to wealth and abundance, as those are simply social perspectives anchored to us. Abundance can be in the form of freedom or spiritual upliftment. As as the wiki quote states, this line of thinking has been around since at least the 60's; that's why in the cold war a team of researchers did a test to see if collective individual proximity yielded any results -- As it turns out they were remarkable. In the period of time when the control group was doing a collective meditation for peace, there was actually a cease-fire which ensued. This was repeated multiple times in both the Gulf War, and then later in America in Washington DC.
Science which is kept out of the public realm for a variety of different reasons has now shown that for a certain geographical radius, if the square of 1% of the population affected is collectively sustaining the same general thought and desire than that is what is needed to produce that result. Just the square of 1 of those affected%
In other words, the number of people to enact a GLOBAL CHANGE is really not that much, and that is what the 'Fire the Grid' program recognizes. On this July 17, at 4:11am-5:11am (here in Vancouver) or 8:11am1-9:11am (for Halifax) or (do the math) for everywhere else. Please, please, please, please take the time to participate -- all you have to do is be happy and focus on happy thoughts and love for the entire planet. Fill yourself with love and the world will so have to respond. It's amazing how things can be so complex and yet so elegant.
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if you wish to know more about the basics of this concept I would google 'gregg braden'
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It will take more than solitary gifting to fix our problems, dear. I would suggest trying to fit in other things, like an open mind perhaps. lol.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:42 am Post subject: |
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Hello David,
The big point I wanted to make with you is that there is a certain level of discernment, own opinion and experiences that you need to develop and have before you write about things like this on an orgonite board... like Psywarriormatrix for instance...
You must admit that this particular one being your very first post makes it sound a little - well, weird... since this is a board for orgonite gifters and experiences which you have yet to share with us... I do look forward to hearing about your gifting adventures 
There are plenty of other places to go for rallying people to be good followers...
Gobbo,
I'm laughing since you said that people here are "so emotional"... and yes, you are probably right... I don't know how this would fit into your world, but there are many, many people who independently gift and boost and pray on a daily basis and don't need to be followers of some group in order to do the work. I think one of the biggest dangers these days seem to be too many people who don't spend any time actually looking into things before they start telling the rest of us that "we" must be doing this...
"It will take more than solitary gifting to fix our problems, dear. I would suggest trying to fit in other things, like an open mind perhaps. lol."
I agree that it will take a lot more than solitary gifting to solve the worlds problems, but I also happen to think that it starts with personal responsibility and discernment, as well as the actual choice to be a warrior whatever that may entail personally for each one of us. I would like to think that I am open minded but that doesn't make me stupid, or a follower... or afraid to have an opinion...
I am so very sad to have seen how this board has turned into a place where there is so much crap, disinfo and conjecture to sift through in order to find something that's is actual valid information. It's become something that seems to waste my time more than interest me and being the warrior I am I would like to see it get back on track, discussing the things that brought us here in the first place and that empowers us all... orgonite...
Let's not waste our time following the latest fad group...
Lena
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Ethereal
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Lena,
I agree that my status as a first poster made me sound weird...and a recruiter for Fire The Grid. However, I am not. I simply wanted to encourage people to take a look at it first before dismissing it....
I've been reading on this board for a long while before registering.... I didn't share my orgonite gifting yet because I'm still trying to understand how to interpret what I've came across....it's pretty disturbing..and hard to believe.
But rest assured Lena, a report is on its way 
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| Quote: | | I'm laughing since you said that people here are "so emotional"... and yes, you are probably right... I don't know how this would fit into your world, but there are many, many people who independently gift and boost and pray on a daily basis and don't need to be followers of some group in order to do the work. |
You begin with your whole tirade with a statement which proves you know absolutely nothing of this event.
If you want to lecture people on things you are wholly ignorant to, under the guise of gifting, then go ahead -- I wouldn't expect too many to listen to you, though. lol.
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Inge
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:03 pm Post subject: re |
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We just ask for one single hour of your whole life (it isnt too much to ask for is it?)
If you feel good about it then feel free to join, if not well just idle where you are (no judgement intended of course ) |
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lightsabre
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| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:18 am Post subject: 11:11 connection? |
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I just read another thread on this site about the 11:11 phenomena, and it struck me that "fire the grid" is scheduled to start July 17th, at 11:11am GMT. I wonder if there's any connection there?
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It is a sacred number.
Think of it this way: Let's say, hypothetically, that built into our universe was a system of reality manifest such that at certain 'times' within the co-operative collective there is a something special. Perhaps, thoughts are amplified at this time.
Well, running with that idea , you can see how high level CIA mind control could subvert someone's mind at different times (the subconscious) mind recognizes to invoke thoughts of fear and despair -- every time you see the number you are confused and that little emotion goes off within you:
"AM I BEING HACKED???@?"
This is all hypothetical, but next time you see 11:11 and you are not sure what to make of it I would suggest simply listening to whatever thought-train you were/are having and divert it to something nice and blissful. I visualize a lot of weather... clear skies, the word love dancing around -- stuff like that.
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Inge
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| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:23 am Post subject: re |
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Thanks Lena.
Always wise to read both sides of a case.
I read some of it and the first thing i noticed was a bad gut feeling in myself.
Could be the brownies i just ate tho ... |
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