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Bird
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:49 am    Post subject: Best resin and why Reply with quote

Greetings!
Having found a wonderful supply of metal shavings locally (a bike ride away) and crystals - the 20/25 from Sensei - I am now wondering about the best resin to use to make TBs. I have been doing all gifting with DB's great products; now that the weather is warmer, the creative urge is strong! Until I become practiced at pouring and feel confident to make pretty hhgs to give away, I will be making TBs and camoing them for wanton littering efforts moving into the MD and the VA areas of the Delmarva! Please do share your favorite resin to work with and why. I have this link: http://www.shopmaninc.com/polyesters.html There are so many resins listed I do not even know where to start <g>, the differences between the bartop resin and the surfboard resins, the thick mold resins etc. Then I found this Aqua-Resin http://www.shoalhaven.net.au/~bunyanfilms/aquaresin/aquaresinint.html

QUOTE The Aqua-Resin? system offers easy to use, water based, water borne, non-toxic, opaque, moulding, laminating, and casting materials without the usual health risks or fumes generally associated with conventional resin systems. Aqua-Resin? products were developed to fill a need not only for safer materials, but also to provide working properties and versatility not found in other materials.

All Aqua-Resin? products are designed to be easily mixed, applied, moulded, adhered to, cut, tooled, sanded and feathered, finished and painted; all this while providing optimal strength for its intended uses. These uses include: prototypes, architectural castings, mannequins and figures, stage design and film sets, repairs and restorations, sculpture and other 3-dimensional applications. UNQUOTE

Thanks so much Warriors! Salud, Karin
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try 'Evercoat Marine Boat Yard Fiberglass Resin' available at all Bass Pro Shops around the country for about $18 per gallon blah blah blah, said the orgonite magpie.

It's the best. raarrkk...raarrkk...raarrkk..Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've said this before...and I'm a-saying it agin! Smile

Bondo brand resin found in the automotive section of Walfart or probably any other automotive store (they use it for repairing dents in auto bodies), is great for practicing.

I like it because it is done in 20 minutes and you can quickly see the results of your efforts whether good or not so good.

A 32oz can is about $9.50. A gallon is about $29.00. Both come with METK hardener included.

Don't got no "Bass Pro" shops in these here parts!

--DK
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys, so far, so good - we have a Bass and we have a MallsWart

Orgone Knight, if I get really good with the bondo, does that mean I can move on to automobiles?
<g>

Cheers, Karin
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bird wrote:
Orgone Knight, if I get really good with the bondo, does that mean I can move on to automobiles?


Sure, you can start on my wife's car by removing the bungee cords that are holding her bumber on!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:23 am    Post subject: best resin and why.... Reply with quote

Hey guys!
Thanks for the tips! Real timely as I'm about to pour a mess'o TB's. I've got a couple of my own to help out here, and one is time sensitive, but real good.....

I checked out Blubrick's tip on Bass Pro cuz I wanted to save a buck or two. Turns out we have one near Baltimore, and they do indeed sell them for $18/gallon, saving about $10 over Home Depot and Walmart.

However, the guy there said that they only carry a couple of gallons, cuz there's not much call for it, at least with that store (we should change his mind). Wink They apparently don't control how or when they get it in - just whatever comes on the resupply truck. DK is right about the locations too - not a ton of stores out there nationwide, but they seem to be expanding rapidly. So for what's it worth here's the info on Bass Pro for those that can use it - maps, etc.

2 locations for the Mid-Atlantic region:
7000 Arundel Mills Circle
Hanover, MD 21076
Phone: 410-689-2500

3501 Paxton Street
Harrisburg, PA 17111
Phone: 717-565-5200

http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.CFPage?appID=94&cmid=LN_IN_STOR ELOCATOR





THE BETTER NEWS IS THAT I GOT A TIP FROM THE GUY THAT LED TO AN EVEN BETTER DISCOVERY, AT LEAST UNTIL APRIL 30. IT'S ALSO A STORE MORE ACCESSIBLE NATIONWIDE....





WEST MARINE, another brand of boat shop:
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/DisplayPageView?st oreId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&page=StoreLocator&section=stores

Same resin as Bass Pro sells, but a little more ($23.99/gallon), however they have a lot more stores nationwide and right now until April 30 they have an online coupon that can be printed and used at the store specifically for buying that resin and you get $10 off your purchase whatever gallons you buy - whether it's 1 or more!!! (limit 2 per household) I checked with a store near me and the guy there said any online deal is useable at the actual store.

Product: Boatyard Resin
General-purpose polyester resin with a thickening agent. Flows freely to fill cracks and seams, and is easier to apply than thick resins.

$10 Mail-In Rebate! Download PDF Coupon
Excellent wettability and good strength
Requires sanding between cured coats
Hardener included
For fiberglass, metal and wood construction, modification and repair
Cure time: 4 hours Recoat Time: 30 minutes


I know I probably sound like a commercial, and I don't mean to.....well, yeah, I guess I kinda do, at least when it can save us a few bucks in the process.





This just in: consumer reports indicate many states reporting a run on polyester resin at particular stores nationwide. As yet we have no ideas what would cause such an event. Our expert consumer analysts indicate that it could mean more do-it-yourselfers are out there taking matters in their own hands, and using the resin for special projects around the house, however they do not have any clue or examples of what could be done with it.... Laughing




[Tried to C&P the maps, coupon and info here but couldn't figure out how to get it to work, so I'll leave it up to you to browse thru there and print out the coupons.....]


Hope this helps out for any trying to purchase resin soon.

Peace,
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

<ggg> Lu Natic - great! *****
A West Marine is in the next larger town south!
I will call them in the morning. . . I wonder if they will be 'in stock' - if so, certain purchases will add to the actual shortages of resin being reported by West Marine and other companies nationwide! <gg>
Cheers, Bird
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will check these out! A WM just 75 miles away in Reno. Too Cool!
Thanks!
--DK


West Marine
2505 Mill St
Reno, NV 89502-2101
PHONE: 775-329-2552
Store Hours:
Mon-Sat: 10:00 AM - 6:00 PM
Sun: 10:00 AM - 5:00 PM
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4753141 99W 517
Only $23.99 USD

General-purpose polyester resin with a thickening agent. Flows freely to fill cracks and seams, and is easier to apply than thick resins.

$10 Mail-In Rebate! Download PDF Coupon
http://www.westmarine.com/rebates/Boatyard_Resin_05041_R.pdf

Excellent wettability and good strength
Requires sanding between cured coats
Hardener included
For fiberglass, metal and wood construction, modification and repair
Cure time: 4 hours Recoat Time: 30 minutes
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool. That's it. That's what I use now. I used Bondo for a couple of years until I discovered Boat Yard resin. It's cheaper and I can get it, but Bondo is still good, if that's all you can get. Casting TB's, HHg's, CB's and EP's is no problem with either one.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, DK and Karin!
I was hoping the crew from Jersey would notice this too, before the coupon expires on May 1. Although not to worry, I was told that West Marine has specials like this throughout the year, so we can just keep an eye out for those.....

Jim, the guy I talked to in the Rockville, MD store was great - very informative and just one of those guys you know will be a help to you. He's the one who told me that West Marine (at least his store - we didn't talk about any others) goes thru a lot resin, so he keeps about 12 1-gallon tubs in stock at any one time and made it sound like it was no big deal to get more. Hopefully their people across the country are as well-trained and courteous. Good Luck!

BTW, lest I gave any the wrong impression, that coupon is limited to 2 PURCHASES PER HOUSEHOLD, not just 2 gallons of resin!!!
Let's stock up!





Oh yeah,
Bird, where-abouts are you located? I'm out in Frederick, MD. Maybe we could coordinate our efforts in deployment of tactical orgone. From your comments it sounds like you may be closer to the Jersey Crew. Either way, let's make sure the whole area gets worked on.... Cool


And DK, can you edumacate me how you got the photos, and other info to copy here (or just PM me)? That way I can do a better job posting info.


Tangent:
For all you warriors out there who may find themselves passing thru the Baltimore / Washington DC metro area soon or in the future: PLEASE E-MAIL ME, GIVE ME A CALL OR OTHERWISE LET'S FIGURE OUT A WAY TO HOOK UP. It'd be great to maybe get in a mini-gifting run or just have lunch, or something.
And of course, if anyone is going to be vacationing out this way - you know: see a DC monument, drop a little orgone, or go to Ocean City, drop a dolphin ball, whatever, maybe I can be of assistance in getting info, or whatever. Just another way to put forth some "local" hospitality.......
Wink


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I meant orgonITE, not orgone in my previous post....Although it would be way cool to just be able to deploy tactical ORGONE into the environment at will - that'd really give the chemspewers a run for their money. Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Big Daddy Lu Natic, DK, BluBrick,

First I'll start a Delmarva gifting journal (Delaware, Maryland, Virginia) in the Gifting Reports and Hints section so as to keep this thread resinized. BTW Ocean City, MD has been thoroughly land-gifted, dolphins will arrive last week in May or thereabouts. Guess I better post my gifting runs tonight! Fresh battalions coming in from all sides!

Back to resin, I called the local West Marine and the man said they have loads of the stuff, that the coupon was good for purchases through April 30th, just fyi, so all hands on deck.

Cheers and a great hit on the resin, tks again
Karin
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the Bondo brand Resin. With one gallon, I can make about 50 TBs in less than four hours including spraying on the non-reflective camaflauge paint. :-) One batch of fifty TBs cost's me about USD$30 in materials. I get my Bondo at the local Lowe's Home Improvement center for only $24.95. I buy my mufin pans at the Dollar store. $10 will buy you enough to do a whole gallon in one go. Then just pop them out, spray paint, and you're good to gift! Another thing I like about Bondo, is that it comes with a little plastic tray to hold your sticky spoons and and it's easier to pour than the awkward Boatyard can, IMHO.
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