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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:59 am    Post subject: gold leaf Reply with quote

I recently bought some gold leaf at hobby lobby and plan on using for some pouring that im going to be doing.
Now i know it dosent say 24k gold but would it still have nearly the same effectiveness of 24k gold?

i would appreciate any thoughts on this
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much did you pay for what amount ?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it is real gold, it will have the same effectiveness. Gold is usually alloyed with Copper, or Silver, or something else to keep the color, and all of those alloys are acceptable in orgonite AFAIK.

Furthermore, many gold flake sellers are actually selling copper + zinc alloyed to look gold. This works in orgonite but is not worth anymore cost than the base price of copper + zinc.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you bought it at Hobby Lobby it's most definitely not real gold but might be useful as a metal addition unless it is painted plastic. The "gold" you get in those little glass bottles is not real gold either and will often turn green when cast in orgonite.

There is a kind of gold flakes at Michael's that will work really well in orgonite but only about the same as a copper component and should only be used for art pieces.

Real gold is hard to find and very expensive and the true properties of gold can unfortunately not be duplicated by cheap imitations.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks guys

i paid about 12 dollars for 25 sheets

this is it
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Cain, painted plastic.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol thats alright , you live and learn

if you dont mind me askin sensei where do you get the gold that you use in the nano lemurian pendants?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 gram of gold 24k costs 35 euro. it is the tip of a knife.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:36 am    Post subject: 2k-3k Quality Gold Reply with quote

Will 2k-3k gold work just as well as 24k gold in orgonite? I also second on the question for Sensei on the source of his gold flakes.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like to grind gold leaf in a mortar and pestle with some quartz sand until the gold leaf disappears which is to say that the gold particles become small enough they can't be seen with the naked eye. It is a bit of work but if the quartz sand is sharp it will pulverize the gold leaf nicely plus I feel I am working in intent into the gold. As I grind it I am visializing what I want the orgonite to do and be.
This sort of intent grinding is something I do with lots of different minerals if I am using them in powder form for orgonite recipes. Grinding different minerals together for awhile rather than just loosely mixing them brings your intent to bear on them more intimately.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My gold contact would not work for other folks, it is complicated.

Search google for 24 K gold leaf for gilding and art uses. Sometime it is available on ebay.
Get the LOOSE pieces enclosed on both sides with paper.
Should cost about $1 for a 3X3 inch square.

Then put them in the resin and break up with a stir stick. Make the pieces small and a little gold will go a long way.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My friend is a jewerly maker, just little glass beads and earrings and whatnot - she said this site is her source:

http://www.arrowsprings.com/html/leaf__foil__wire.html

gold and silver, copper and palladium foil available.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Palladium leaf too!!! Thanks for link
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi everyone, I bought some "Troy gold flakes from ebay" http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Troy-Oz-Gold-Leaf-Flake-32-Grams-No-Vial-Ver y-Best-Ebay-/110752118780?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c95737fc#ht _500wt_1413
they said they are made from scrap metals with trace amounts of gold. Anyway I just read this thread, and yes I did notice that the "Troy gold flakes" i put in my orgonite some of it turned green? Does that mean its plastic and they lied about it being from scrap metals??


Also is this a good vender for 24k Gold???
http://www.lagoldleaf.com/product_info.php?cPath=23&products_id=50



Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. LA Gold Leaf is good.
By the way I may have happened onto a test fro pure gold leaf. I had some that was allegedly 24K from an Ebay seller. Recently I have started sprinkling gold flake on the bottom pf plaques so that there is s starry sky of gold on the bottom surface of the mold piece. I later tarnish these copper powder/resin cast pieces with liver of sulfur to darken them but 24K is not supposed react to the sulfur. Well the "gold leaf" does react. It turns a copper color which may indicate it is a copper and zinc alloy. I have also noticed that not all of the flakes react, so it may be that unscrupulous sellers mix real 24K or even 23K with alloyed flakes.
That way they can say their product is high purity when in fact it is only partially so.
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