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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:56 pm    Post subject: metal powders Reply with quote

I have the oportunity to have some metal powders that are used in creating metal objects. Im wondering if this is usable in Orgone.
The two powders have a 80% manganese base and the rest is either zinc or I forget the other.
So is manganese good for Orgone?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really think any metal is okay, it's just a matter of personal preference. I have yet to see a universal (or even popular) agreement that any one metal or combination is bad. Try it out and see how you feel about it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mercury
Lead
Uranium
Plutonium

I think those are clearly metal not to use in Orgonite.

I had asked about Pewter without success. New pewter formulation don't use lead, but antimony and bismuth.

It seems that silver and aluminum don't get a clear consensus over them. Some love them, some banish them.

Like Olam said, experimentation is best to find it out, but at least shareable knowledge permit us to have a smoother progression over new discovery in the research field.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Antimony is toxic and should not be handled too much...

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't realize that uranium and plutonium were considered metals. I thought they were transient elements (would never even occur to me to put them in orgonite. I imagine they would burn a hole right through your piece, plus who is going to supply anyone with those dangerous materials in the first place?). I imagine the eerie glow from these would be enough to keep me up all night, let alone the hole they would burn through my floor (and then subsequent visits to the doctors office for radiation poisoning, and all that would entail). I can see where mercury and lead might be a problem, though I can't imagine they are terribly easy to come by. I wouldn't want to be breathing in mercury vapors, that's for sure. I would also like to avoid handling heavy metals whenever possible.

I'm not terribly fond of aluminum all the time, but there are days when I appreciate it and give my thanks for its use in orgonite. I feel the same way about silver (outside of orgonite). Some days I like it, some days I don't.

I'm going to have to try putting bismuth in orgonite at some point. Hold the antimony (and I don't mean literally).
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I finally got the metal powders, one is manganese/tungsten mix. 80% Manganese.
The other is Silicon Carbide/Manganese, 80% Manganese.
Wiki on silicon carbide Silicon Carbide

I think all this is safe......anyone think otherwise?

I really don't wan't to start building really good looking Pyramids and then realizing that not only its not good but it could also potentially be very bad!

Working with orgone, I think we have the responsability to do it right.....

So what do you think?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The one thing that seems to matter most besides resin, shavings, quartz xtal is that you are in a good mood while pouring. I really don't see a problem with your ingredients. Your ingredients sound just fine to me. I'm interested to see what happens when you put the silicon carbide and manganese in a piece of orgonite. Pour your pieces however you like, but I'd like to suggest doing one piece with the tungsten and another with the magnesium, and a third piece with both. Each piece will have a different quality and you can make better observations about which powder does what.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the reply. Well pouring while happy is indeed what I like to do. Im a bit of a perfectionist and so if Im in a bad mood, I won't like the results as I won't be patient enough.
As for feeling what the different metal powders do, I might be sensing the difference at a certain level, but conciously, Im not sure anout that.

Although I have only been doing TB'S with key shavings and two inductors. I will now concentrate on doing my first set of clear resin art peices.
I have an idea with Iron oxide and a neodeum magnet. If that works, it will be reaaly beautiful. I have not seen anything like that sofar....maybe because it does not work!..
haha, will have to try and see.
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