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Saphira
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 6:57 pm    Post subject: Would these silicone pans be okay for tb's? Reply with quote

I was really interested in this one at first -
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00428M7ES/ref=ox_sc_sfl_image_2?ie=U TF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
but then someone said in the comments that it was 3oz filled at the top (instead of 4oz.) Since resin shrinks, that wouldn't be ideal, or would it be alright to use?

http://www.amazon.com/HIC-Brands-that-Cook-Essentials/dp/B003OKU77O/re f=cm_rdp_product_img

Would this one be better since it looks like the holes are probably 4oz or something like that? They don't have a 12 cup one but still.

Thanks! Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Either one of those look just fine Smile

Happy pouring!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you! Very Happy Just wanted to make sure the first one was the right size. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are more forgiving than metal pans when pouring different layers.

The curing orgonite does not separate as quickly from the mold wall as it hardens and shrinks.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The curing orgonite does not separate as quickly from the mold wall as it hardens and shrinks."
Hmm, so should I just do metal pans instead or does that apply to metal pans too?
I just figured I wouldn't have to spray with silicone pans, and I can't remember who said it on here but I read silicone pans keep the heat on the curing orgonite better than metal pans.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silicone pans are easier to work with, you do not need any lubricant, they are easy to cast layers in and will give a very nice surface on the pieces Smile

The one downside (which is easily fixed) is that they are hard to move once they are full of metal and resin. Easy thing to take care of by having them on some kind of tray you can pick up and get into/out of the sun. I personally use baking trays Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's awesome, thanks for the great tips! Very Happy I'm excited for my 2nd time trying here in a few days when it gets here. :3
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lena wrote:
Silicone pans are easier to work with, you do not need any lubricant, they are easy to cast layers in and will give a very nice surface on the pieces Smile

The one downside (which is easily fixed) is that they are hard to move once they are full of metal and resin. Easy thing to take care of by having them on some kind of tray you can pick up and get into/out of the sun. I personally use baking trays Wink

Lena


Hi, is that also true for epoxy resin on silicone or just fiberglass resin? Recently, I just used easy cast epoxy resin on my metal muffin pan. They did eventually pop out. But I had to pop it in the freezer and beat it with a hammer first. A few of them had tiny little bits that got permanently stuck on the metal pan. But otherwise, 95% of it popped out just fine.

So Im thinking, if i switch to a silicone pan it should be even easier and I shouldn't even 'need' mold release. Just wanted to know your thoughts on that, if I can get away with just buying the pan and not having to worry about the spray - more money to save.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silicone is the way to go. The silicone molds listed in the initial post will work fine, but they are not as long lasting as the better made silicone molds elsewhere:
www.bakedeco.com
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cicada, when using metal molds watch out for the seams at the top. Don't overfill your molds and keep the resin out of the seams and they should release just fine. Mold release is great, I use it on every mold except resin, but that !@#$ seam around the top can still make the TBs stick. Been pouring since Jan 2010, and I only figured that out a couple of weeks ago!

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

silicone is great. my favorite molds are thrift store glassware. very unique and inexpensive items. super wicked gloss too. cupcake pans for tactical tb's. mold release of some kind on everything but the silicone.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silicone molds retain heat better - they are insulative. I think this gives a better resin cure. Metal immediately conducts heat away. Aluminum is a strong thermal conductor. Steel less so but still very conductive. This means they immediately begin to cool the resin as the thermoset reaction takes place, and they also create short term a lot of surface heat which means that the orgonite has a hot surface and a cooler interior than would be the case with silicone molds. This situation creates stress in the resin. It could be argued I suppose that such stresses might put more of a torsional squeeze on the crystal though.
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